Tangents on toast (click here for original article)
Okay, I've been planning a post on modals and auxiliaries (what I mostly work on) but I have been sidetracked by toast. The title article comes from the excellent Language Log (a site I highly recommend to anyone with an interest in language). It seems to me that the difference here is between construals as objects, and as processes. Toast, for instance, is generally conceived of as an object...if I say "We had toast for breakfast" you're unlikely to ask "What kind?", whereas such a query is perfectly reasonable if I say "We had wine with dinner" or "My mother makes the best stew".
You can actually craft examples structurally identical to those questioned in the article if you either expand or narrow the scope, both cases that (to me) reflect processes. For instance, you can say "Toast prepared over an open fire isn't common these days" or else "the toast served at the Ritz is always hot". Both of these are fine for me, syntactically and semantically. I propose this is because they refer to processes.
I think further evidence comes from beer examples. If I say, "The beer at the Mitre Inn is always cold", I'm referring to a process; that of serving the beer. I know it's warm when it's delivered, and I know it'll be warm if I leave it for an hour, but at the output of the process (here, that of serving) it is and always is at condition A, A being 'cold'. This can be extended by analogy to cover the rest of the examples. It also excludes the bad examples...the toast that hits the floor is not related to the process that creates 'toast'.
I think syntacticians like semantics because we enjoy things even more apparently random and unconstrained than syntax.
And if anyone visits Cambridge, I also recommend the Mitre. The lager is in fact always cold, and the bartenders are friendly, and achingly beautiful.
You can actually craft examples structurally identical to those questioned in the article if you either expand or narrow the scope, both cases that (to me) reflect processes. For instance, you can say "Toast prepared over an open fire isn't common these days" or else "the toast served at the Ritz is always hot". Both of these are fine for me, syntactically and semantically. I propose this is because they refer to processes.
I think further evidence comes from beer examples. If I say, "The beer at the Mitre Inn is always cold", I'm referring to a process; that of serving the beer. I know it's warm when it's delivered, and I know it'll be warm if I leave it for an hour, but at the output of the process (here, that of serving) it is and always is at condition A, A being 'cold'. This can be extended by analogy to cover the rest of the examples. It also excludes the bad examples...the toast that hits the floor is not related to the process that creates 'toast'.
I think syntacticians like semantics because we enjoy things even more apparently random and unconstrained than syntax.
And if anyone visits Cambridge, I also recommend the Mitre. The lager is in fact always cold, and the bartenders are friendly, and achingly beautiful.
